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Last Modified: 11-27-2007 1.6 C
Service Category: Drivetrain Section: Automatic Transmission/Transaxle
Model Year: 2008 Model: LX570 Doc ID: RM000000W7Y02UX
Title: AB60F AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION / TRANSAXLE: AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION SYSTEM: DESCRIPTION (2008 LX570)

DTC

P0717

Turbine Speed Sensor Circuit No Signal

DESCRIPTION

This sensor detects the rotation speed of the turbine which shows the input revolution of the transmission. By comparing the input turbine speed signal NT with the counter gear speed sensor signal SP2, the ECM detects the shift timing of the gears and appropriately controls the engine torque and hydraulic pressure according to various conditions. As a result, the gears shift smoothly.



DTC Code

DTC Detection Condition

Trouble Area

P0717

All the conditions below are detected for 5 sec. or more (1-trip detection logic).

(a) Gear change is not performed.

(b) The gear position is 4th, 5th or 6th.

(c) The T/M input shaft rpm is 300 rpm or less.

(d) The T/M output shaft rpm is 1000 rpm or more.

(e) The park/neutral position switch:

  • The NSW input signal is OFF.
  • The R input signal is OFF.

(f) The shift solenoid valves and park/neutral position switch are operating normally.
  • Open or short in speed sensor NT circuit
  • Speed sensor NT
  • ECM
  • Automatic transmission (clutch, brake, gear, etc.)

Reference: Inspect using an oscilloscope.

Check the waveform of the ECM connector.

Standard:

Terminal No. (Symbol)

Tool Setting

Condition

Specified Condition

C53-124 (NT+) - C53-123 (NT-)

1 V/DIV., 2 msec./DIV.

Engine idling (shift lever in P or N)

Refer to illustration


MONITOR DESCRIPTION

This DTC indicates that a pulse is not output from the speed sensor NT (turbine (input) speed sensor) or is output only a little. The NT terminal of the ECM detects the pulse signal from the speed sensor NT (input RPM). The ECM outputs a gear shift signal comparing the input speed sensor NT with the output speed sensor SP2.

While the vehicle is operating in 4th, 5th or 6th gear with the shift lever in D, if the input shaft revolution is less than 300 rpm*1 although the output shaft revolution is 1000 rpm or more*2, the ECM detects the trouble, illuminates the MIL and stores the DTC.

HINT:

  • *1: A pulse is not output or is irregularly output.
  • *2: The vehicle speed is approximately 50 km/h (31 mph) or more.

MONITOR STRATEGY

Related DTCs

P0717: Speed sensor (NT)/Verify pulse input

Required sensors/Components (Main)

Speed sensor (NT)

Required sensors/Components (Related)

Speed sensor (NC)

Frequency of operation

Continuous

Duration

5 sec.

MIL operation

Immediately

Sequence of operation

None

TYPICAL ENABLING CONDITIONS

The monitor will run whenever the following DTCs are not stored

P0500 (VSS)

P0748 (Trans solenoid (range))

Shift change

After shift change is completed and before starting next shift change operation

ECM selected gear

4th, 5th or 6th

Output shaft rpm

1000 rpm or more

NSW switch

OFF

R switch

OFF

Engine

Running

Transmission position switch failure

Not detected

Battery voltage

8 V or higher

Engine switch

On (IG)

Starter

OFF

TYPICAL MALFUNCTION THRESHOLDS

Speed sensor signal rpm

Less than 300 rpm

COMPONENT OPERATING RANGE

Speed sensor signal rpm

300 rpm or more

WIRING DIAGRAM

INSPECTION PROCEDURE

1. DATA LIST

HINT:

Using the Techstream to read the Data List allows the values or states of switches, sensors, actuators and other items to be read without removing any parts. This non-intrusive inspection can be very useful because intermittent conditions or signals may be discovered before parts or wiring is disturbed. Reading the Data List information early in troubleshooting is one way to save diagnostic time.

NOTICE:

In the table below, the values listed under "Normal Condition" are reference values. Do not depend solely on these reference values when deciding whether a part is faulty or not.

(a) Warm up the engine.

(b) Turn the engine switch off.

(c) Connect the Techstream to the DLC3.

(d) Turn the engine switch on (IG).

(e) Turn the Techstream on.

(f) Enter the following menus: Powertrain / Engine and ECT / Data List.

(g) According to the display on the Techstream, read the Data List.

Engine and ECT

Tester Display

Measurement Item/Range

Normal Condition

Diagnostic Note

SPD (NT)

Input shaft speed/

Min.: 0 rpm

Max.: 12750 rpm

Lock-up:

  • ON (after warming up engine): Input turbine speed (NT) equal to engine speed
  • OFF (idling with shift lever in N): Input turbine speed (NT) nearly equal to engine speed

The data is displayed in increments of 50 rpm.

HINT:

  • SPD (NT) is always 0 while driving:

    Open or short in the sensor or circuit.

  • SPD (NT) is always more than 0 and less than 300 rpm while driving the vehicle at 50 km/h (31 mph) or more:

    Sensor trouble, improper installation, or intermittent connection trouble in the circuit.

PROCEDURE

1.

INSPECT SPEED SENSOR NT INSTALLATION

(a) Check the speed sensor NT installation.

OK:

The installation bolt is tightened properly and there is no clearance between the sensor and transmission case.
OK

2.

INSPECT SPEED SENSOR NT

(a) Disconnect the C41 speed sensor connector.

(b) Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:

Tester Connection

Condition

Specified Condition

1 - 2

20°C (68°F)

560 to 680 Ω
OK

3.

CHECK HARNESS AND CONNECTOR (SPEED SENSOR NT - ECM)

(a) Disconnect the C53 ECM connector.

(b) Measure the resistance according to the value(s) in the table below.

Standard Resistance:

Tester Connection

Condition

Specified Condition

C53-124 (NT+) - C53-123 (NT-)

20°C (68°F)

560 to 680 Ω

C53-124 (NT+) - Body ground

Always

10 kΩ or higher

C53-123 (NT-) - Body ground

Always

10 kΩ or higher
OK