2007 Compass Patriot MK Factory Service Manual 9 - ENGINE

P2503-CHARGING SYSTEM OUTPUT LOW





For a complete wiring diagram Refer to Section 8W.



Possible Causes
 
EXCESSIVE RESISTANCE IN THE B(+) CIRCUIT BETWEEN THE GENERATOR AND THE BATTERY
 
EXCESSIVE RESISTANCE BETWEEN THE GENERATOR CASE AND GROUND
 
(K20) GEN FIELD CONTROL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO VOLTAGE
 
(K20) GEN FIELD CONTROL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND
 
(K20) GEN FIELD CONTROL CIRCUIT OPEN OR HIGH RESISTANCE
 
(A804) GEN SENSE CIRCUIT OPEN OR HIGH RESISTANCE
 
GENERATOR
 
POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE (PCM)
 


Always perform the Pre-Diagnostic Troubleshooting procedure before proceeding. (Refer to 9 - ENGINE - STANDARD PROCEDURE).



Diagnostic Test

1. DTC IS ACTIVE

NOTE: Inspect the vehicle for aftermarket accessories that may exceed the generator system output.


NOTE: Inspect the condition and tension of the generator belt before continuing.


NOTE: Inspect the battery before continuing.


Ignition on, engine not running.
With a scan tool, select View DTCs. Record DTC and Freeze Frame information
With a scan tool, clear DTCs.
Start the engine and allow it to reach operating temperature.
With the scan tool, select View DTCs.

Is the status Active for this DTC?

Yes


No

2. EXCESSIVE RESISTANCE IN THE B(+) CIRCUIT

WARNING: When the engine is operating, do not stand in direct line with the fan. Do not put your hands near the pulleys, belts, or fan. Do not wear loose clothing. Failure to follow these instructions can result in personal injury or death.


NOTE: Make sure all test equipment and cables are clear of any belts, pulleys, or other moving parts.


Monitor the voltage between the generator B(+) output terminal and the battery positive (+) post.
Start the engine.

Is the voltage above 0.4 volts?

Yes


No

3. EXCESSIVE RESISTANCE BETWEEN THE GENERATOR CASE AND GROUND

WARNING: When the engine is operating, do not stand in direct line with the fan. Do not put your hands near the pulleys, belts, or fan. Do not wear loose clothing. Failure to follow these instructions can result in personal injury or death.


NOTE: Make sure all test equipment and cables are clear of any belts, pulleys, or other moving parts.


Monitor the voltage between the generator case and battery ground (-) post.
Start the engine and allow it to reach operating temperature.

Is the voltage above 0.1 volts?

Yes


No

4. (K20) GEN FIELD CONTROL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO VOLTAGE



Turn the ignition off.
Disconnect the Generator harness connector.
Disconnect the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) harness connector.
Turn the ignition on.
Measure the voltage of the (K20) Gen Field Control circuit.

Is there any voltage present?

Yes


No

5. (K20) GEN FIELD CONTROL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND



Turn the ignition off.
Measure the resistance between ground and the (K20) Gen Field Control circuit in the Generator harness connector.

Is the resistance below 100 ohms?

Yes


No

6. (K20) GEN FIELD CONTROL CIRCUIT OPEN OR HIGH RESISTANCE



Measure the resistance of the (K20) Gen Field Control circuit between the Generator harness connector and the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) harness connector.

Is the resistance below 5.0 ohms?

Yes


No

7. (A804) GEN SENSE CIRCUIT OPEN OR HIGH RESISTANCE



Measure the resistance of the (A804) Gen Sense between the Generator harness connector and the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) harness connector.

Is the resistance above 5.0 ohms?

Yes


No

8. GENERATOR

Turn the ignition off.
Connect the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) harness connector.
Turn the ignition on.
With a scan tool, actuate the Generator Field to toggle on and off.
Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, check the (K20) Gen Field Control in the Generator harness connector.

NOTE: The test light should be illuminated and bright when toggled on. Compare the brightness to that of a direct connection to the battery.



Does the test light toggle on and off correctly during the actuator test?

Yes


No

9. POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE (PCM)

Using the wiring diagram/schematic as a guide, inspect the wiring and connectors between the Generator and the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
Look for any chafed, pierced, pinched, or partially broken wires.
Look for broken, bent, pushed out or corroded terminals.
Monitor the scan tool data relative to this circuit and wiggle test the wiring and connectors.
Look for the data to change or for the DTC to reset during the wiggle test.
Refer to any Technical Service Bulletins that may apply.

Were any problems found?

Yes


No